Currently I'm bothered and no longer proud because I understand now something I didn't back when I first put up this image:
how utterly sexist a term like Mary Sue is.
How much it limits women from having their own wish-fulfillment fantasies while men can write those sorts of stories and they can be entirely successful. Just think about it this way.
“So, there’s this girl. She’s tragically orphaned and richer than anyone on the planet. Every guy she meets falls in love with her, but in between torrid romances she rejects them all because she dedicated to what is Pure and Good. She has genius level intellect, Olympic-athelete level athletic ability and incredible good looks. She is consumed by terrible angst, but this only makes guys want her more. She has no superhuman abilities, yet she is more competent than her superhuman friends and defeats superhumans with ease. She has unshakably loyal friends and allies, despite the fact she treats them pretty badly. They fear and respect her, and defer to her orders. Everyone is obsessed with her, even her enemies are attracted to her. She can plan ahead for anything and she’s generally right with any conclusion she makes. People who defy her are inevitably wrong.
God, what a Mary Sue.
I just described Batman."
quote is from this post adventuresofcomicbookgirl.tumb…
I won't take down this image because people might still come by from the TV Tropes page I guess. I hope what's said here is taken into consideration.
Wow. I never thought of that.
But the unfortunate girls only get the benefits if the society they belong to says so. Being beautiful only matters if those around you act differently, being pure only has any effect if others say it does. The princesses of Disney movies, simply for example, are very admirable but sadly limited in their ability to positively affect the world around them except by example. A female mary sue doesn't have the more proactive traits of a man; physical strength is ubiquitous in men but almost forbidden for women, the drive to confront danger and fight isn't allowed, confrontational attitudes are out. By aspiring to be a 'mary sue' fictional women are so limited from becoming well rounded that the term, meant to describe perfection, is arguably a negative.
Here is what I found on the subject, though, for reference:
"Having the artist's permission is always a Good Thing. If you want to use an artist's work as a page image, it is common courtesy to send an email to the artist and ask for their permission (first!). Here is an example that was sent and responded to with permission:
Original art (from DeviantArt, Flickr, etc.) may be Creative Commons licensed. If you see that, go ahead and use the picture but be sure to follow the CC terms, especially BY (give the artist credit — a link back to their website in the caption generally suffices and is a good thing to do anyway) and Remix (if it doesn't have this it means you aren't supposed to alter the image; resizing is probably OK). NC (non-commercial) and SA (share-alike) are covered by the wiki's CC license. "
~From the How to Pick a Good Image page
"Some creators do not want their work used outside their control at all, but fair use means that we are not legally bound to honor this for the wiki's purposes, aside from the aforementioned restrictions. We'll honor a take-down request, but it's up to them to send it. We're not obliged to chase them down and ask them what their policy is. Fair use also allows us to use excerpts of works without seeking permission. In this case, the minimum needed to get the trope across should be used."
~From the Image Picking policy thread
Sorry for the long post. I hope this helps.
Also... she IS really beautiful. Well done.
People like Superman should be able to one-hit-kill Batman with EASE. You don't see Krillin roundhousing Majin-buu either.
Males = Gary Stu
Well, you really can't.
I just described batman.
Well,there's always Gary-stus.
Most fanfiction writers are female, and many of their characters are female.
Mary Sue isn't sexist, per se. Taking the Batman quote into consideration, the fellow is one big pile of sue/stu when his traits are written out of context. Certain traits make for a piss poor character regardless of gender, especially if the writing skills to 'make it fit' are missing.
Slight Example: Purple-haired, genki girl neko lady. Awful everywhere unless her universe calls for characters like this to fit in.
she may not be mary sue. It depends on how you portray your character.
Yes, she may be absolutely beautiful, but we don't know exactly how or what happened...
nor have we seen her in action ever
so we dont know yet... :3
Also, well done with the art! It deserves it's spot on TvTropes!
I've been through so many situations were quick to call any female character a Mary Sue just based on the fact that she had power and/or was the main character of her own story. The term "Mary Sue" has so many subdivisions in it listed on TvTropes itself that's all based on female characters in media it makes characteristics for an accepted well-written female character very narrow.
There's a stigma against female characters in media in general. It might not seem like it but if you were to look a little closer it begins to pop out at you. It can be the most unconscious decision on a production. I'd go into it further but I'll just leave that as is;
Jking jking X3 - I really like the art though, it's very pretty.
dat iz no mary-sue!
Suez needs moar shinny!
hair is too short! dress is too plain!
WER ARE HER WINGZ!? (*A*)